I am considering a brake upgrade beyond lyndall pads for the FXST.
The front end set up on CCC softail looks the goods and previous experience with brembo brakes on my ducati makes them an obvious choice.
Has anyone used this setup or others and can comment on the effectiveness versus stock and the effective versus a decent twin disc 4 or 6 piston setup?
www.qtmi.com/STREETkitsSOFT.html
cheers surly
I have the stock Brembo's on my V Rod and Performance Machine 6 pots on 98 FLHT. Find both great with little / no difference between the stopping power of both.
Scotty,
Are you contemplating running another group buy of Lyndall and if so I will put my hand up for a set.
Thanks
Stinga
Gidday All,
I have an 05 FXDX and found the front twin disc to be better than any previous HD brakes, but still below par.
I purchased a set of Ducati 748R Brembo 4 piston 4 pad calipers from ebay, they cost about $500au landed. I also bought a pair of BrakeTech Axis 320mm rotors and caliper mount brackets, these were expensive at $800us for the pair. The bracket mounted to the standard fork lugs and positioned the new caliper perfectly, no shims required.
I have never had brakes this good before, the feel and control is incredible. They stop real fast too! I cannot reccomend this set up enough. Shipping time was minimal, the calipers were here in 9 days, the rotors in 3.
Don't buy stainless steel rotors, get iron rotors they work much better due to a higher coefficient of friction. And don't get chrome calipers, they keep the heat in and will thus reduce braking efficiency.
The address for BrakeTech is www.braketech.com They do a kit costing around $1400us that has Brembo calipers, Axis iron rotors, billet aluminium brackets and mounting hardware for Harleys. I think this is a better kit than QTMI sell, it is certainly cheaper by around $400us.
Tux.
www.wilwood.com/Products/001-Calipers/029-GP/index.asp
Ok how about these bolt on Wilwoods?
cheers Surly
I must be the only guy happy with stock brakes, will be fitting the Scotty supplied Lyndall pads soon, anyway I have completed 2 stay upright courses ( courtesy of Dept of Defence) and both times the instructor was surprised how quick my 07 Streetbob was pulling up, as he assumed all Harleys were shit compared to other bikes. When we were doing the emergency braking part I was pulling up from 100kmh in the allotted distance. I'm sure twin discs would be better but are they really necessary. I do like the look of those 4 piston black anodised calipers though.
Hey Surly,
I can recommend the Brembo's, as you would be aware my bike is running twin 4pad 4pistons calipers up front, with twin 12.6" brembo rotors, and the 2pad 4 piston caliper out back.
The brake feel and performance is superb from this set-up, I've run plenty of PM 6 piston differential bore set-ups, and I believe the Brembo's are superior. Don't get me wrong the PM's are still a good product, and they offer a significantly improvement over the OEM.
Twin disk vs. single disk, really depends on the look you like, a single brembo on a 12.6" rotor will give you good feel, and plenty of power, more than enough to stop your FXST on a dime. Having said that the twin disk set-up is superb, and wouldn't run anything else on a bike that get riden hard. Yes, the calipers have more than enough power to exceed the sticking power of a 21/90 tyres contact patch, but grab hold of any OEM calipre hard enough and they'll lock the front wheel up also. It's about feel, smooth controlable braking power(with only one or two fingers, so you can keep the throttle on song), and minimising fade.
The rear caliper is as much for asthetics as anything, it performs better than the OEM item, but given the amount the rear brake does during hard braking, it's not a big difference.
Give me a call if you want to talk further, (08) 6313 3909.
Jas
Calibre Custom Cycles
G'day all,
Been following this thread with quite a bit of interest and I agree with "shfunky" whats wrong with the standard 4 pot on the 2000 and up Harley, try a single fuckin pot calliper and even "CCC' said that you can lock up the standard 4 potter. If you what a bike to do brake hand stands you would just go out and get a Duke 1098 R wouldn't ya, don't ya think ya asking a bit much of a 21/90 tyre contact patch as quoted by "Bikefan"
Now my standard single pot, on the other hand, on the front my 99 WG is a different matter, it has the power of case hardened plasticine and ,until I fitted a S/S braided hose, the feel of a piece of pine, it is shit and down right dangerous with the worked donk.
Which brings me to the point of my posting and the information that I am requesting.
Now most of my riding has been in the country away from all them Volvo drivers and the single pot has only just been adequate but a recent trip to the big smoke and mixing it with the cage drivers has has brought home the fact that something needs to be done to the brakes. So I am going to upgrade the front calliper to either a Brembo or a Performance Machine 4 pot , I already have Harley floating disc's. So what would be the better of both callipers in regard the feel, clamping pressure and fade resistance. Now I know that this is a fairly subjective question open to everyones own personal opinion and experiences and the price of both are about the same $820. I like the PM's because they bolt up with out a bracket and the black contrast looks better than the black Brembo but you dont see many PM on road race bikes except on drag bikes. So any of your thoughts, the good, bad, and the ugly would be read with interest and taken on board.
Just one other thing that I learnt while I have been researching the net for a calliper if ya want a good price from here get a price from the Aus reseller then e-mail the US dealer, your e-mail will be redirected to the Aus reseller and they will quote $ 355 less for one kit and $ 171 less for the other than the original quote.
