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  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Has anyone used this mod wood in place of conventional timber and what are your thoughts / experience?
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    3 years ago
    I have not used it PB but notice that a lot of people here are using it, including quality builders I know.
    My concern with the stuff is that it is basically plastic and will eventually break down into millions of small bits of nano plastic...just like all the other effing plastic out there. Termites might not eat it, but your grand kids will down the track when they eat fish etc.
    Recently one of the big milk suppliers here stopped selling milk in those cardboard rectangular containers and now only sells it in plastic containers.
    As if we need more plastic in the world.
    Why not use a good timber instead?
    Remember years ago when "Craftwood" was invented and advertised by Edward Woodward?
    Now the shit is virtually banned from worksites because it is a carcinogen.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 28 Dec 2020 10:34 AMedited: 28 Dec 2020 10:41 AM

    I have not used it PB but notice that a lot of people here are using it, including quality builders I know.
    My concern with the stuff is that it is basically plastic and will eventually break down into millions of small bits of nano plastic...just like all the other effing plastic out there. Termites might not eat it, but your grand kids will down the track when they eat fish etc.
    Recently one of the big milk suppliers here stopped selling milk in those cardboard rectangular containers and now only sells it in plastic containers.
    As if we need more plastic in the world.
    Why not use a good timber instead?
    Remember years ago when "Craftwood" was invented and advertised by Edward Woodward?
    Now the shit is virtually banned from worksites because it is a carcinogen.

    Love timber but the upkeep in QLD is pretty intensive on top of the warping cracking etc
  • Soapbox2627
    Soapbox2627
    3 years ago
    I was kicked out of Bunnings last week, I was in the wood isle and a guy asked my if I wanted decking, that's when the fight started!!!!!
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    3 years ago
    the bloke next door used plastic decking and it buckled under the Cairns heat, it all needs replacing 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Yes i have heard that it can buckle, but my timber decks have done the same
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    3 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 28 Dec 2020 08:08 AMedited: 28 Dec 2020 10:05 AM

    Has anyone used this mod wood in place of conventional timber and what are your thoughts / experience?

    Hi Pauly
    My next door neighbor used it extensively on their new build when we lived at North Beach Wallaroo SA.
    They used it for decking, slat fencing and gates. I used permapine. (yeah I'm a cheap bastard)
    It's right on the sea front facing West and cops a right hammering from sun and sea spray.
    The place was built 7 years ago and so far it hasn't warped nor faded. Our permapine hasn't warped but it has faded.
    While they get several days each summer of 45 degrees or so (had one stretch of 47, even the lizards were dying) it rarely gets humid. 
    Frosts occur rarely.
    So, it's a very windy and corrosive environment that attacked even the new hot dipped galv I used on outdoor structures (powder coating was useless) and it ate into our new industrial grade KingKlip zinc allum roof in two years, but this modwood stuff looks fine.
    One thing to consider is that the modwood gets hot, much like artificial lawn, so if it in full sun and bare footing it's your thing be aware.

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 28 Dec 2020 08:08 AMedited: 28 Dec 2020 10:05 AM

    Has anyone used this mod wood in place of conventional timber and what are your thoughts / experience?

    Quoting Ratbob on 28 Dec 2020 11:48 PMedited: 28 Dec 2020 11:49 PM

    Hi Pauly
    My next door neighbor used it extensively on their new build when we lived at North Beach Wallaroo SA.
    They used it for decking, slat fencing and gates. I used permapine. (yeah I'm a cheap bastard)
    It's right on the sea front facing West and cops a right hammering from sun and sea spray.
    The place was built 7 years ago and so far it hasn't warped nor faded. Our permapine hasn't warped but it has faded.
    While they get several days each summer of 45 degrees or so (had one stretch of 47, even the lizards were dying) it rarely gets humid. 
    Frosts occur rarely.
    So, it's a very windy and corrosive environment that attacked even the new hot dipped galv I used on outdoor structures (powder coating was useless) and it ate into our new industrial grade KingKlip zinc allum roof in two years, but this modwood stuff looks fine.
    One thing to consider is that the modwood gets hot, much like artificial lawn, so if it in full sun and bare footing it's your thing be aware.

    Cheers RB even our timber decking at the back of the house gets kinda red hot underfoot during summer and i had been warned about the heat with mod wood.
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    3 years ago
    This is a question l have, 
    On my decking and a few around town, I have noticed, filled the gaps. 
    Any opinions on this ?
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  • robnicko
    robnicko
    3 years ago
    filling the gaps between the boards wont allow for expansion unless its a flexible filler
    its wood and will forever expand / contract dependent on the weather / humidity.

    One of the main reasons guitars have truss rods in them is to enable adjustment of the wooden neck to cater for both string tension and climate


  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Quoting robnicko on 29 Dec 2020 01:35 AMedited: 29 Dec 2020 01:35 AM

    filling the gaps between the boards wont allow for expansion unless its a flexible filler
    its wood and will forever expand / contract dependent on the weather / humidity.

    One of the main reasons guitars have truss rods in them is to enable adjustment of the wooden neck to cater for both string tension and climate


    Spot on, if they cant expand they will cup and remain in that position when they dry out
  • bloodog
    bloodog
    3 years ago
    This stuff
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  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    3 years ago
    Quoting bloodog on 29 Dec 2020 12:49 AM

    This is a question l have, 

    On my decking and a few around town, I have noticed, filled the gaps. 
    Any opinions on this ?

    8A350B64-1E39-4C4B-9183-10C73E83668D.jpeg
    If you look at boats/yachts that have wooden decks you will see they have filler in them. Generally the timber is quality stuff ($$$$) like teak etc.
    As others have said a flexible filler is the go. I have not seen that stuff you posted in the picture Bloo and would be hesitant to use it.
    Sikaflex is a well known quality brand and they have a vast array of fillers. Best bet would be to visit the sikaflex distributor in Cairns mate and use the one they reccommend if you feel you just must fill in the gaps.
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    3 years ago
    Oh deary me!.
    Never mind, sometimes it aint worth arguing.
    That's why they leave gaps on boat decks I guess.
  • steelo
    steelo
    3 years ago
    My apols fc. No intention to disparage you. Never seen gaps in timber decking on boats that wasn’t filled. 
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 05 Jan 2021 10:39 AMedited: 05 Jan 2021 10:39 AM

    Oh deary me!.
    Never mind, sometimes it aint worth arguing.
    That's why they leave gaps on boat decks I guess.

    I aint building a boat...i need the water to disperse and i am using a composite wood to stop it rotting and mould forming.
  • Far Canal
    Far Canal
    3 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 05 Jan 2021 10:39 AMedited: 05 Jan 2021 10:39 AM

    Oh deary me!.
    Never mind, sometimes it aint worth arguing.
    That's why they leave gaps on boat decks I guess.

    Quoting paulybronco on 05 Jan 2021 11:00 AM

    I aint building a boat...i need the water to disperse and i am using a composite wood to stop it rotting and mould forming.

    I was talking to bloodog pauly not you.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Quoting Far Canal on 05 Jan 2021 10:39 AMedited: 05 Jan 2021 10:39 AM

    Oh deary me!.
    Never mind, sometimes it aint worth arguing.
    That's why they leave gaps on boat decks I guess.

    Quoting paulybronco on 05 Jan 2021 11:00 AM

    I aint building a boat...i need the water to disperse and i am using a composite wood to stop it rotting and mould forming.

    Quoting Far Canal on 05 Jan 2021 11:12 AM

    I was talking to bloodog pauly not you.

    I am confused but all good
  • WideglidingNZ
    WideglidingNZ
    3 years ago
    The company i work for sell's pine decking, the grade of decking makes a big difference eg- merch will bend and buckle more than premium or clear grade pine. The decking will expand and shrink with the weather eg- the decking will swell when wet and then return to original size when dry again, we have to explain to our customers that the decking has just been treated and it will shrink, there is a huge demand for decking here in NZ at the moment as soon as it is ready it goes straight out the door, I personally would not use plastic just because it is artificial and I prefer working with timber
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    3 years ago
    Quoting WideglidingNZ on 05 Jan 2021 06:02 PM

    The company i work for sell's pine decking, the grade of decking makes a big difference eg- merch will bend and buckle more than premium or clear grade pine. The decking will expand and shrink with the weather eg- the decking will swell when wet and then return to original size when dry again, we have to explain to our customers that the decking has just been treated and it will shrink, there is a huge demand for decking here in NZ at the moment as soon as it is ready it goes straight out the door, I personally would not use plastic just because it is artificial and I prefer working with timber

    I agree Widegliding, i also prefer natural products but dont enjoy the constant upkeep with it. Guessing you dont have to put up with the heat and humidity problems like we do in QLD.
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